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Old 01-06-2010, 02:57 PM
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Suppliers

Most of the above tobacco and non-tobacco flavors are carried by many of the scores of suppliers participating in in VF and ECF (links for the least expensive of which will be included in Part 5). Supplier links for the more unique flavors (other than e-Cialis) have been provided above.

The creator/supplier of perhaps the most esoteric (and rather expensive) e-liquid (e.g., Absinthe, Ylang Ylang, Roast Beef, etc.) is Decadent Vapours, based in the UK. It appears that they have closed their shop, however DV's offerings now are sold by Totally Wicked* (UK, US). Sadly, Ylang Ylang and Roast Beef are not offered, but Absinthe is, as are Parma Violet and Lotus Flower, among many other atypical flavors.

* Bonus: Anything you order from TW will be imprinted with their trademark logo ***8211; a red devil's head ***8211; which some find appealing ... others, not so much. [I***8217;m somewhere in between. I have used TW atomizers ... but not in the presence of corporate clients.]
One other supplier you may want to check out at this stage is dietSMOKES.com, not because their prices are especially low (they***8217;re not), but because they***8217;re becoming something of a meta-supplier, offering e-liquids from several other suppliers. Also check out their ***8220;Below Zero***8221; NON Nicotine Liquids, for the same reason.


Evaluations

E-liquid is evaluated ***8211; in numerous text and video
reviews
(and during the past few months, there has been a plethora of both) ***8211; using many of the same factors as hardware reviews, e.g., vapor production, flavor, and throat hit ***8230; all three of which are dependent on both the hardware and software. Such reviews and evaluations of juice, however, are necessarily more subjective. For example, my evaluation of banana-flavored juice (whether from supplier X or supplier Y) is ***8230; meh (a word I picked up from Gen Y members on VF and ECF). However, you may think it***8217;s the cat***8217;s pajamas (an expression from my parents***8217; generation).

Check out the reviews, but take them with many grains of salt. See if you can identify the reviewers whose ***8220;taste***8221; (both literal and figurative) is simpatico with yours. For example, I happen to be very comfortable with GrimmGreen***8217;s and igetcha***8217;s demeanor (although the latter's accent sometimes is challenging for my Yankee ears ... and I think Chris and Sean are a hoot!. You might prefer MoobyGhost or Crash or SuperVaporBros, etc., etc. [NOTE: bigicedog's video reviews are so unique they deserve special mention.]


PG vs. VG

The nicotine and flavoring are the ingredients that make our world go round, but what gets vaporized is the base liquid. In most cases, this is PG. But some people are allergic. You***8217;ll know soon enough and it***8217;s usually nothing serious. Symptoms vary, but can include: dry or sore throat, muscle cramps and aches, diarrhea, night sweats, and rash (usually not all at once or in the same person, thank goodness). If you experience any of these:
  1. Consult with your doctor (I ain***8217;t no MD), certainly if it is anything other than mild discomfort and/or it continues for several days. [Sounds like the back label of a bottle of over-the-counter meds, doesn***8217;t it ***8230; but there is a good reason they do that, you know.]

  2. Explore the
    Medical/Health and Safety
    subforum, especially such threads: as
    Symptoms of PG Alergies
    and
    Health effects of vaping/quitting smoking
    . The latter is recommended for all new vapers. There are lots of ***8220;interesting***8221; symptoms (some of them really nice) often associated with stopping smoking and starting vaping, only a few of which are PG-related.

  3. Try VG-based liquid ***8230; or PEG (Polyethelene Glycol) ... or ECOpure (brand name of a UK-manufactured mixture consisting of VG, ethyl maltol, and nicotine ***8230; and no PG, purported to be very pure).
Even if you are not allergic to PG, you might prefer VG or those others. Conventional wisdom is that PG packs more flavor and throat hit, but VG generates more vapor. [When I mix my own juice, I use both.]
  • iVapour-Elixir also carries PEG, as does Nuvape (they call it NON-PG). [NOTE: iVapour-Elixir says this about PEG: ***8220;Seems to have more vapour* production than PG liquid, and might suit PG allergy sufferers too (though VG liquid is recommended for those who are PG sensitive).***8221;]
* I hope that VF members across the pond will take note of (and appreciate) the fact that I overrode my American-English spell checker and let this British spelling stand.
[I***8217;ll be providing links to many more suppliers of e-liquid (mainly PG-based) in Part 5, but I wanted to give a head start to those who may be PG-allergic.]


E-liquid 102 (i.e., second semester: independent research in the field)

To learn more about the lavish land of ***8216;lectronic liquids, explore the
E-Liquid Reviews
and
Vendors
subforums. [NOTE: Some suppliers specialize in e-liquid. However, virtually all suppliers (even those focusing primarily on hardware) also carry e-liquid. And I hope you realize that e-liquid purchased from a supplier of, for example, the JOYE line of models (510, 306, 306a) can be used in any e-cig.]

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